My interview experience was very demoralizing, which I guess I shouldn't found surprising given that HAWC is known for having DEI issues. Having interviewed for a role there, I was able to first-hand experience how that inequity occurs at the recruiting stage. I had a virtual interview for the Grant Specialist role and immediately got weird vibes from the people interviewing me. Their questions were vague and unclear, they didn't seem interested in my responses, and they kept making weird faces at my responses which threw me off and made me uncomfortable. After a certain point, one of the interviewers turned away from the screen and started doing work. As an interviewee, it's hard to feel comfortable if it becomes immediately apparent that the interviewers are clearly not interested in me as a candidate. I highly recommend that the organization's leadership truly look inward about the ways that their work culture is rooted in white supremacy and how this may be at play in weeding out candidates of color.