HubShout Reviews

3.6

66% would recommend to a friend

(69 total reviews)

Chad Hill

82% approve of CEO

55% positive business outlook

HubShout has an employee rating of 3.6 out of 5 stars, based on 69 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have a good working experience there. The HubShout employee rating is in line with the average (within 1 standard deviation) for employers within the Media and communication industry (3.7 stars).

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69 reviews
1.0
22 May 2019
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

The writers and account managers are very friendly, and it was a pleasure getting to know them. However, the only reason I (and probably other writers) continue(d) to stick around is because of the flexibility of being able to work from home. Working remotely and being able to build up a small portfolio (I do mean small - 99% of the work is ghostwriting) are literally the only redeeming qualities of this job. Don't stick around for longer than you absolutely HAVE to - this company does NOT deserve your hard work.

Cons

In all honesty, this job took away my passion for my craft and my confidence in myself. Here's why: Once you prove to management that you're a competent writer who can handle deadlines, they'll work you as hard as they possibly can by asking you to take on extra duties without any type of additional compensation, quota reduction, or even acknowledgement. You're expected to complete 45 articles ('tasks') per week, with about 400 words per article (They told us that's one article every 48 minutes. Are we robots?). Sure, some of the featured news can be grouped together and written as one longer article, but you're writing an absolute minimum of 40 articles per week. That doesn't even include extra duties, like calls with clients, attending meetings, posting articles on Wordpress, making agendas for meetings, gathering topics and arranging editorial calendars...and the list goes on. Raises are virtually unheard of here. Instead, they give out 'bonuses' at the end of the year based on what's essentially an arbitrary rating of performance. Both years I was there, I was robbed of my bonus by a mere few hundredths of a point after being told repeatedly that I was 'on track' to receive a good bonus that year and hitting goal virtually every single week I worked there (exceeding goal many weeks as well). How's that for a blow to morale? Even the very nature of some of the work here seems questionable. For example, when we're on the phone with clients, we're typically supposed to avoid any mention of the word 'HubShout' due to the white-label nature of the business. Essentially, we're lying to our customers and making them think we're working for the reseller's company - the other agency involved in the transaction. It's a complicated mess. If the people paying for these services actually knew the mindset and amount of knowledge the writers have of most of the subjects they write about, they'd probably take their business elsewhere. Writers have to deal with some of the most complicated and technical subjects for incredibly niche industries that it's impossible to learn enough to write an article with a quick Google search. That, in and of itself, makes the job inherently unsustainable. To add insult to injury, the 'culture' (I use the word loosely because I never felt any sense of it) is greatly diminished by the very nature of the writers' jobs. Any time a 'fun' workplace event is scheduled, most writers are unable to attend because we have too much work - there was never a quota reduction offered, and if we went, we'd end up missing goal and getting greatly penalized. Any time writers asked about a quota reduction, they'd get told "I don't know - let me ask and get back to you" without ever hearing back. Seriously, what's the point of going to a "fun" event during work hours if you just have to rush even more later in the week to make up for it? As far as I know, no other employees had this issue other than the writers. All the Bob Ross painting events in the world can't make up for the absolutely atrocious way this company treats their writers. We were brushed under the rug and dismissed with each and every one of our concerns, without fail. Even the editors, who started as writers and should've understood our struggle, didn't hear out our concerns or advocate for our wellbeing in any real way, which is incredibly disappointing, to say the least. Instead, they just point out tiny ways you can still improve (even though you're taking on a heavier workload without a higher pay) and tell you to "manage your time better" or "work harder," frowning upon anyone who asks for any type of help or quota reduction (yes, I literally got penalized for this, even though I only needed that help because of all the extra work I was taking on). They never cease to focus on the small things you're doing wrong over the countless things you're doing RIGHT. It was only after I spent two years here and had been taking on an abundance of extra tasks that I perpetually started to fall behind because asking for help was seen as a sign of weakness. I finally drew the line and flat-out quit when the extra tasks I was taking on as a senior writer became far too much to handle - especially at the poverty wage level of $12.20/hr. I could walk into almost any grocery store or fast food restaurant, fresh out of high school, without a degree and make more than that per hour. Anyone with a heart or even an ounce of decency in their soul knows that those rates are flat-out extortion with this type and level of workload. This company doesn't deserve to be successful while taking such cruel advantage of younger workers just trying to get their foot in the door. (And yes, they do aim to hire younger workers, presumably so they can drastically underpay them - I recall there being an initiative to make HubShout the "best place to work for recent grads.") I could go on and on about the injustices witnessed during my time at HubShout; this is just the beginning. Fortunately, I was able to easily find a drastically better remote job that pays twice the salary of HubShout, and other writers surely can, too. I'm sure the CEO will formulate some articulate response to this review in an attempt to smooth things over and save face for the company like he always does. But everything I've written here is true - the company outwardly looks as if it prioritizes the culture and the overall wellbeing of employees, but it absolutely does not - it's all a carefully crafted illusion. The bottom line is this: writers, don't stop your job search once you get hired here. There are plenty of other options out there that will pay you what you're worth with a much more reasonable workload. Use the stress at this job as motivation to find a better one. And above all, don't let the terrible management make you lose passion for your craft. You deserve a job that treats you fairly, and you absolutely will not find it at HubShout.

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HubShout Response
7y
Hi! Thanks for providing such thorough feedback. We are a values-driven company with a huge emphasis on mutual respect and listening. As such, we always welcome feedback - even when it is very negative. We have already shared your review freely within the company and had active discussions. "We eat failure for breakfast" is a credo and we mean it. We plan to have more discussions. We believe that our ability to stand in uncomfortable situations with mindfulness, a focus on listening, and honesty, is how you build a great company. Again - Thanks for this opportunity to face into your issues. We're so sorry you were so unhappy for so long. It is not what we wish for you, or anyone, in any job - but especially at HubShout. Where to start? Oh my! Firstly, it is no surprise to us that you were unhappy. We knew of your disengagement from the tribe for quite some time. It was frequently discussed on the team as many of us were worried for you. Devin, Danielle, Tim and I had many conversations about how we could do better. Account Managers would mention it and help us brainstorm. We explored what we were doing wrong and how we could better reach out to you. Many attempts at dialog were made, but communication remained a challenge and our relationship suffered. Despite our efforts, you were clearly unhappy, and we do not feel good about that at all. I’m sure we could have done better / more. As for the state of our company culture, we are confused by your feedback. Since you left 3 months ago, we completed our 13th quarterly Culture Survey (we use a tool from the University of Southern California). After 3 years of hard work on culture, the score finally reached a new high, putting us in the top 20% of employers. The assessment tool is completed anonymously and we get a very high participation rate. The data suggests our culture is the strongest it has been in 11 years. On the issue of compensation, we agree with you on many points. We have done a poor job building career paths that lead to meaningful income opportunities in the company. We are actively trying to fix this issue. Last year, an employee-lead team completely overhauled the Account Manager position, resulting in 3 levels of promotion path and higher pay. They also revamped the bonus structure. They were given immense autonomy and came up with very creative solutions that made the company more efficient - money that they saw directly in record-level bonuses. We’re very proud of what the Account Managers did last year. We are also proud to have paid bonuses for 7 years straight. We benchmark our bonuses against other companies and they are significantly above average. This year we have launched a new position called Matrix Team Leader, again to create promotion and income opportunities. We are particularly focused on Danielle’s aspiration of “creating more leadership positions for women” in the firm. Andrea was recently promoted into this position and she is simply amazing. Finally, for the last several months Melissa has been leading an initiative specifically for a promotion path for Writers, the very issue you have raised. I have been personally involved with many of those meetings and support her mission. While we’re not finished with the work, our track record is strong and we will find a solution. We’re also confused on your points about turnover. Turnover was a major issue for the firm several years ago. As the culture has improved, it has become almost non-existent. Again - we review this data regularly and have open discussions. Turnover at HubShout for the last 24 months has been extraordinarily low. Again, I’m so sorry you missed out on all of these opportunities and the amazing culture we are building at HubShout. I am deeply saddened by your review, and the anger you have toward us. We want you to know that we are listening intently, with compassion. I sincerely wish you the best in your new job and thank you for your feedback.
2.0
26 Jun 2018

Fear and Loathing in White Label SEO

Anonymous employee
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

Even though I'd love to absolutely hate this company, it played an important part in my development as a person and as a professional. --The people are fantastic, which makes for a pleasant office. -- There are opportunities to learn many different facets of digital marketing, even if they mostly revolve around SEO and PPC. -- If you work as a writer, you will build up a solid portfolio in no time at all. -- As far as launching your career, Hubshout is as good a place as any to do so. -- Like college, in a way, hubshout taught me what I DON'T want to do with my life. Not a sarcastic comment at all, this is genuinely positive. I loved working here for the first six months, but it wore me down. You will feel welcome on your first day here, you will enjoy your time. That all fades away, unfortunately.

Cons

Honestly, this company is exploitative. They wring every ounce of creativity from the writing team, paying them an obscenely low hourly rate. Similar jobs will pay around $45k per year while hubshout barely pays half of that. If you want a raise you will need to throw away all of your already deteriorating social life and focus only on projects, 'innovation', and company values. The pay is ridiculously low, sure, but that's not what irked me so. It was the leveraging of 'values' in such violently dishonest ways. Upper management will lead you to believe that values are a truly integral aspect of their organization and decision-making process. This is so far from the truth that the entire idea is laughable. There are no ethics here, at least at the upper management level. I would accept this as a critical requirement of company loyalty and employee retention, but it hasn't worked. The turnover rate here is astronomical. I've worked minimum wage jobs where the average employee has been with the company longer than people stay with hubshout on average. There's got to be a reason for this, a reason that higher-ups at hubshout actively ignore. As for the products themselves, writers slave away for forty hours per week at a quota of 45 articles and 5 extra tasks. Let's look at the extra tasks real quick: they are advertised as time you can spend enriching your own knowledge of marketing, business, and professional skills. This is not how they really work. You will end up spending over 5 hours every week on essential job functions, then have no time to enrich yourself. Plus, the writers (paid the least out of everyone) are the only employees that are required to do this. Now, let's look at the compensation itself. $12.23 per hour (non-negotiable), 40 hours per week, 45 task quota. That means you are doing roughly 1.125 articles per hour. This doesn't even factor in your 5 extra tasks. Each task is a minimum of 370 words, but most stretch past 400. Still, at the bare minimum, you need to write 416 words per hour, accounting for the adjusted hourly article rate. This works out to be just under 3 cents per word. Make no mistake, hubshout is a content mill with an office and rates worse than many gigs on upwork. Plus, it is made very obvious from the beginning that all writers are replaceable. Why? The articles we write are generic, poorly optimized, and low quality. Anyone with half a keyboard can write them. I don't mean to rain on hubshout's parade, BUT they have a lot of issues that need some serious work. Not least of which is getting the manipulative leadership tactics out of the cesspool. I won't go into detail here, because the person who reads and responds to these 'anonymous' glassdoor reviews likely already knows who wrote this. So, hi! You are a brilliant person and quite a strong leader, but please stop trying to manipulate your employees with your carefully chosen words. It is much more transparent than you realize.

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HubShout Response
7y
Hi! And a big Thank You for sharing. As we've said many, many times before - our values (especially Integrity) require that we listen deeply to all feedback. We will share your feedback and discuss it openly (as we always do) . We believe that practice makes us stronger. We understand that you were deeply disappointed with the pay for the position. It is, indeed, an entry level position. We are quite proud of the 10 promotions we were able to award in 2017, all from internal candidates, to higher paying positions. Our intention is to do the same in 2018. Our Bonus Pay in 2017 was near record-level, which was not mentioned in your calculations and should be noted. We also work very, very hard to make sure the pay structure and workload are exactly as advertised to candidates prior to accepting the position. On your point about "5 extra tasks per week" - we agree. In fact, that system was retired 4 weeks ago (long before you wrote this review). It is now just 45 per week. Although, many do less because they have the opportunity to write longer form content for our Publishing Partners (which count double or triple toward their goal). Our ultimate aim is to continue innovating, including the long-form content product you mentioned - but many others for sure. Our team is extremely creative and dedicated - for which I am very grateful. We also appreciate your points on employee turnover. We have been monitoring turnover very closely over the last few years. We had very high turnover in 2016, but are very proud of the extremely low turnover we've had in 2018. We think this correlates with the intense focus on our culture and communication - and the progress we made with increased compensation (via 2017 Bonuses). Also, the radical ideas the team has implemented to improve the culture at HubShout really seems to have had an impact. Most teams simply don't have schedules anymore and are, instead, free to work from wherever they want - and at times of their choosing. We've had employees head off to Europe, down South and out West without having to use any vacation time. Meetings are optional, so people can focus on their work and have personal time to themselves. Social science tells us that autonomy is critical, and our team has crafted radical freedom into the job in very creative ways. I'm sure there is more to come from this amazing group of people. We've also been working on radical delegation, using several approaches geared toward moving authority to where the information is. In 2018, this has included BIG decisions such as "How many people should we hire?" and "Can we make more money if we can do more of the work ourselves or become more efficient?" We follow a "Leader-Leader" model where these types of discussions are welcomed (as are "dissenting opinions" such as yours). Finally, we have a deep commitment to leadership development. Leadership training activities, book clubs and one-on-one sessions are available to everyone in the firm as we believe in investing in our people - all built around our values - which we talk about every day. Speaking of which, I found our Leadership Development sessions and spirited discussions very enlightening. You have an endlessly inquisitive mind and a deep love of philosophy, which I also find fascinating. Again, we're really sorry that HubShout did not work out for you. We thank you for your service and candid feedback. We know that through mindful listening and constructive discourse centered on our values, our Tribe will become stronger and achieve our deepest aspirations.
1.0
29 Apr 2016
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

Other employees are typically young professionals which can make the social aspect enjoyable. The title looks great on a resume. Writing did improve. Learned a lot about SEO.

Cons

The high turnover rate for writers and how long it has gone unresolved is thoroughly unsettling. Management acknowledges that there must be some problem behind it, and continues to ask for suggestions about what it is and how to resolve it. However, everyone is well aware the root problem is the absurd workload, at least in the long term, and yet it remains to be swept under the table by higher-ups. Employees in other departments are understandably hesitant to get to know new writers within their first few months considering they’ve seen so many come and go after just those few months, and in many cases only weeks. In my first two months of employment, four people left, and five people were hired. This all from a team of 10 to 12 writers. To make matters worse, management decided to increase the workload even further. This in and of itself is one thing, but management purposely worded the announcement to manipulate us into thinking the work load had been decreased from 48 tasks per week, to 45. In reality, depending on the meetings you had scheduled for that week, the quota had been raised to 50 tasks per week. During the few months I was there after the change, not once did management even utter “50”, in an attempt to keep up the charade. To top it off, they also added wordpress posting duties, which were interesting and useful experience, but were taking up more time that we didn't have. When the writers banded together to push for changes that would make the position more realistic, every easily solvable point was addressed, such as more workspace and free coffee. But these were only smoke-screens, seeing that no attempt was made by management to address the new quota: The biggest issue we put forward. Other important points, including the enormous stress from the workload and the health concerns it generated, were immediately brushed off with a simple,"well then you probably shouldn't work here." In individual cases, that may very well be the case. However, with multiple similar complaints, it should be obvious there is a major issue. If you are having trouble keeping up with the workload, their method of helping you get back on track is to essentially to toss you in a ditch and see if you can drag your way out, all while looming under the threat of immediate termination. If for some crazy reason that first stint doesn’t motivate you in the long term, they simply continue to dig the ditch deeper until success is practically unfeasible so they can push you out. If you are willing to put your integrity aside, you can definitely brown nose your way to the top and do very well at this company. No one could blame you considering the current scarcity of jobs, so more power to you. However, if sucking up isn’t your thing, you could also write complete dribble as long as you write a ton of it, and do just as well. On the other end of the spectrum, going out of the way to increase brand awareness and other higher-quality content creation strategies, which have been proven to be more effective than the shear quantity of keywords, will be seen as insubordination and laziness if the full quota is not always met. They say that quality is the staple of their business, but in the end, every employee is quantified only by a number on a spreadsheet. This all is able to happen thanks to the “inspirational,” but hollow words spewed by management. Many seem directly ripped from a TED talk which can be good, but only if you follow up and understand the true motivation behind the advice, rather than using it as a tool to make yourself look progressive. Upper management is open to listening to new ideas, feedback, and complaints, but that doesn’t always mean the issues will be addressed. Higher-ups even attempt to reassure you are being heard by documenting what you say word-for-word during meetings. However, I came to realize that your words were often later used against you as well. Some of management is well educated in business psychology, which is obvious from the cheap business tactics used to manipulate employees they want to get rid of into believing they had, “had no choice but to punish/fire you.” This is so common, that they are able to boast a very low rate of actual termination. However, this is only because they make the work so difficult for those that are struggling, that naturally they will quit before they can be fired. I don't necessarily want to blame all of management for this, because it's obvious their hands are tied in some of these situations. No one can really afford to lose their job nowadays. The bottom line is that high writer turnover is essentially ingrained in their business strategy at this point. They have a constant line of potential hires ready to fill any vacancy that may occur. Because finding a writing position or entry-level job in general is so difficult, they know they can continue to do this for the foreseeable future. Although, if you feel you can write mindlessly all-day everyday, then go for it. This is probably a good job for you. As you may have noticed, there is a surprising disparity in reviews for the writing positions, always being rated at either a one-two star, or a five star. Considering this is a content generating company, it’s pretty safe to say the majority of positive reviews are either fake or an attempt by former employees at getting a better reference in the future. Just more shady business tactics. The owners come from a long history of working with big businesses, and are using the same strategies at a small startup. If they remain on this trend, they may very well be headed for disaster. It would already seem they have backed themselves into a corner where they can’t afford to lower the quota anymore. Apparently constantly losing and training new employees makes up for it? The writers, the ones making the actual product, are seriously undervalued, as well as exploited. There’s no room for empathy in big business. Even with just 50 employees, you won’t receive much at HubShout either.

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HubShout Response
10y
Hi there. We were very sorry to read your review. As you pointed out, we are listening very closely to all feedback and believe strongly that all voices should be heard. We are also sorry that the workload was an issue for you. We work very hard to make sure people know the requirements before they ever accept a job with us. We put the workload requirements in the job postings. They are again emphasized in the interview, and once again in training. We believe in honesty and communication, especially when it comes to workload expectations. But you are right, everybody is asked to work hard at our company. You are also correct, the turnover on the writer team has been deeply troubling. We are working very hard to address it. There have been at least 10 meetings on this topic over the last 90 days. Writers have been involved in every decision and have done a great job at coming up with creative solutions. They have launched all sorts of new approaches to address stress. A few examples. The Writer Team now has informal support groups (called Coffee Talks) where they share ideas for managing stress. A member from the writer team started a Gratitude Exercise that has helped people find positivity in their lives. After the first 4 weeks, it was so popular that they are running it again - now with twice as many participants. Another writer has offered to lead meditation sessions. As you know, we've had a work-from-home program (full-time) for writers for several years. All writers are given 10% of the time every week to pursue whatever growth and skills training they want. I know one writer is getting Adwords certified. Others pursue SEO training. And some invent their own growth plan. And finally, the writer team has been instrumental in our decision to allow dogs at work - which has been a big hit (and stress reducer). All employees at HubShout have been invited in to our company-wide strategy sessions over the last 2 months to define where they want to see the company go over the next 5 years. These are not lip-service meetings. The meetings are employee-facilitated. In these sessions, every employee gets a vote - no matter what their level. All dissenting opinions are heard, and consensus is found through respectful discussion and listening. The feedback has been extremely positive and we've seen new leaders emerge who are now running major initiatives with massive amounts of autonomy. Again - We are very sorry this position did not work out for you. But we are extremely proud of our writers, and of our employees. We have all-hands meetings every week to recognize the outstanding performance of our team. They have built the strong culture we have at HubShout and made us a leader in our field.
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