TAMKO Reviews

3.9

77% would recommend to a friend

(150 total reviews)

David C. Humphreys

87% approve of CEO

78% positive business outlook

TAMKO has an employee rating of 3.9 out of 5 stars, based on 150 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have a good working experience there. The TAMKO employee rating is in line with the average (within 1 standard deviation) for employers within the Manufacturing industry (3.5 stars).

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150 reviews
1.0
29 Sept 2014
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

TAMKO invests a lot of money in training of employees and compensates reasonably. They claim free market principles. Cheap cost of living in Missouri.

Cons

All of the senior management are lawyers, and they reflect every generalization you can make. They lie to your face then stab you in the back. The relationship with the Six Sigma program is an abusive one - they provide great training, then use quarterly (monthly, at times) reviews as shooting galleries for their own sadistic pleasure, nit picking and at times outright degrading the black belts. The "culture" they assume is instilled at all of the manufacturing facilities is a shallow facade, preached by all but practiced by very, very few. While executives and management promise a shiny, supportive future, that only exists for employees if they drink as much kool-aid as possible as quickly as possible, while concurrently licking executive leather boots. They preach Deming philosophy of employee enablement and "Driving fear out of the organization" and even went so far as to claim that they "do not perform layoffs - that is why we keep such a large cash reserve", then turn around and clean out an entire department when they predict an economic downturn. The Six Sigma program is managed by luring separating military company-grade officers into the company with promises of cushy management positions after 1-2 years of "paying dues" in the Black Belt role, flexible work hours, and a similar culture to the military. While they pay well and provide expensive formal training, the rest of the promises are lies and ruses, nothing more. They evangelize their "golden boy" Black Belts - the ones who survived and drank enough kool-aid to continue on in the company and mirror the garbage that executives spew, and expect every new hire to reach the same financial savings that these first belts did by only CREATING a process, barely even improving it. Black Belts are offered production line manager positions after 3 years of Six Sigma hell no matter WHAT they promise before getting in, constant badgering by an inept master black belt "director" (who was fired into the position and has subsequently driven it well into the ground) to work extended hours whether they will benefit your project or not, and a culture that despises any change to the antiquated and inefficient work "processes" of the disgruntled line workers. If you're not used to Mid-western culture, it is backwards, slow, overly religious (what church you attend helps/harms your career), and focuses more on football teams than education. For example, there is no alcohol at company gatherings because some executives choose not to drink, and an inordinate number of managers all coincidentally attend the same church. The High Deductible healthcare plan is fantastic... until you need to use it, in which case you'll pay through the nose. If you have any recurring healthcare costs, look elsewhere for employment or go through a spouse's plan.

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TAMKO Response
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I was pleased to learn that Glass Door provides an opportunity for employers to respond to posts. Although it is not our routine practice to respond to a post by someone who purports to be a former employee, we believe a response is appropriate in this instance based on the unfair comments and nature of the post – particularly since this appears to be a repeat posting of his same complaints from over a year ago. TAMKO is proud of its Six Sigma program. TAMKO’s program has been recognized by others outside the company, including our training company, as one of the best Six Sigma deployments known around the country. We are highly selective in choosing candidates for the position of Black Belt. In fact, offers are made to less than 10% of the candidates interviewed for the position of Black Belt---less than 7% in 2014. Our typical Black Belts are highly trained, highly educated and highly driven people. Candidate are told up front that our Six Sigma program is “up or out”---meaning you are either successful or you fail and leave the company, since we do not offer other positions to those who are not successful as a Black Belt. This type of program attracts those who want a challenge and are confident in their ability to meet that challenge. Unfortunately, even though we have a robust interview and assessment process, we have had a few (less than a hand full over the 12 year life of the program) who have failed. Based on the comments within this post, I assume the author is one of the few who did not succeed as a Black Belt at TAMKO. TAMKO is a company based on certain Core Values, the first of which is honesty/integrity. Those who know the company and its employees understand this to be true and find the application of these principles in play every day. We do not “blow smoke,” nor do we coddle employees. As a member of “senior management,” “They lie to your face then stab you in the back” comment is just not true. We go to incredible lengths to model the Core Value of honesty/integrity, and all candidates understand our zero tolerance policy across all levels of the company for breaches of honesty and integrity. Generalized assertions to the contrary are simply misguided. The only other comment I will specifically address is the assertion that candidates are “lured” with promises of cushy management positions after 1-2 years of "paying dues" in the Black Belt role. The candidates I am privileged to interview for Six Sigma Black Belt roles are almost without exception incredibly smart, competent and knowledgeable leaders. For the author to suggest that these people can be “lured” into joining any company is unrealistic. The role of a Black Belt at TAMKO is very demanding. The Black Belts are among the most highly regarded employees at each of our facilities---and the Black Belts know that expectation. If you want a rewarding career where merit is recognized over time of service, where competence is demanded, where peers work together to make the company better, where functional teamwork is the norm, where trust is the foundation of what we do, where honesty is truly a core value and where the culture is one of “we are all in this together,” then this may be the place for you. If you can’t handle constructive criticism, then this is not the place for you. One final point is worth making. A recent company survey was sent to all company employees as part of a regular feedback initiative. Over 87% of the employee population responded to the anonymous survey. The survey asks employees to rank many aspects of the company using a scale of 1-10. In response to the survey comment, “I am proud to work to work at TAMKO” the overall mean response was 8.69 with 10 being the highest. We are told by the independent survey companies that an 87% response rate is extraordinarily high and 8s and 9s on this type of question are extraordinarily difficult to obtain. The employees responding to this survey convey a more accurate and balanced view of our company.
1.0
21 Apr 2014
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

Compensation was decent, within market range. They would not hesitate to send you out for training.

Cons

Initial experience: After the phone interview I was invited to the corporate office in Joplin for the first on-site interview. Here I was told that certain set of system migration projects were "top on the list" issues I need to work on at the plant. Since I had the the required experience to perform such migration I was told they really like my profile and think was a good fit. Later I had an interview at the plant where the engineering manager seemed friendly and walked me through the plant and explained what they did and I was asked the same set of questions on system migration and technical skills they thought THEY NEEDED. Since the skills they told me they need are in line with my previous experience I accepted the offer. First couple of months at the plant there was no correlation between the job duties I was interviewed for, to the actual day to day projects which were assigned to me. The projects which I was told were “high priority” at corporate during my interview were laughed upon during my first couple of days at the plant. TOTAL disconnect between corporate and plant on the vision for process improvement. The Engineering department: The worst part about this place is the utter lack of knowledge on engineering best practices and people survived all these years by one phrase “We always did things this way”. There are no clear definitions on roles and responsibilities for any of these "engineers" I worked with. These folks would constantly step on each other’s toes and execute projects contradicting each other’s process improvement efforts. Imagine if an IT person with an unrelated background could design, program and install electrical and automation equipment, how blurred the lines for roles in the company are. Everyone loves to call themselves “engineers” at the plant, even if you cannot understand most basic of the engineering best practices, such as electrical drawings. The surprising part is that most don’t realize that their way of doing things was outdated. They continue to live in the mess they created and whine about it every single day! TOTAL CHAOS. It’s also surprising that people at the plant follow outside contractors blindly and do not care about what their own experienced employees have to say (who they would interview very keenly). Company Values: Highly bureaucratic work culture and employees survive in “packs”. If you have to survive here you better be a part of a “group”. People get their ideas implemented through this bully mentality with constant intimidation with the reason that their side of argument is somehow “data driven”. Even between departments they hated each other, you can feel the enmity in the air. They would not hesitate for one second to throw you under the bus if they got a chance. This changed quite a lot since the new management took over and I applaud their efforts greatly. But for most part engineers of all departments still act like they belong to a mafia. If they don’t like you they will harass, attack you personally and intimidate you every chance they get. After couple of such personal attacks from my own team, I realized that they would throw everything they have at me to protect their outdated paradigm of doing things and I was at the wrong place. Benefits and Time off: Horrible 401K and health care options, although some would disagree regarding the healthcare options. Take note that the Paid Time Off would begin ONLY after 1 year of successful employment with the company.

2.0
10 Apr 2021

Don't Buy the Hype

Anonymous employee
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

Employee Community: TAMKO is in the manufacturing industry, generally I enjoyed working with the production employees.

Cons

Benefits: 401k- The 401k is a $500 match if you commit 4% of your paycheck. Pathetic. Healthcare - It’s a high deductible plan which really sends the message that they don’t care about their employees well being, given they make a point about how much they care and tell you how great the culture is daily. The nice thing about high deductible plans (if there is anything nice about them) is that you set up a Health Savings Plan, which TAMKO does contribute some to. Nice way to cover the costs that you end up having to pay by being on a high deductible plan. PTO - Perhaps the worst PTO plan I’ve seen for a salary based position. For pretty much every employee, you get 5 days for the rest of the year in which you started. Then at the beginning of the next year, you get nothing until your 1 year anniversary. At that point, you get 10 days for the remainder of that year. Then it’s 10 days per year until your 5 year mark, where you get 15 days. Then you don’t get 20 days until your 10 year mark. Keep in mind that because it’s manufacturing, they only take some federal holidays, not all. And for a company that loves to brag about their military veteran focus, they don’t take Veteran’s day off, which is of course a federal holiday. Every January 1st there's a lot of stress, planning out the measly 10 days for the rest of the year - talk about depressing. Salary - For transitioning Junior Military Officers, they start off at around $100k. Which compared to other jobs you can get through military headhunting firms, is on the high end. However, if you spend your own time finding a job, you can easily start above that. So they will act like they are paying you well to start, but they actually aren't. If you stay long enough, the pay does get quite high, but the benefits don’t improve. However, it seems this is on purpose so you won’t leave. So it’s nice, but it’s a bit of the “golden handcuffs” situation because you’re unlikely to leave. The pay is the only thing that gets better over time. Culture: They spend A TON of time talking about how they have a great culture, but in reality they don’t. One way they attempt to create a great culture is forcing you to memorize “the playbook.” Sound like a cult? Yea, it is; it’s called “Team TAMKO.” And if you don’t drink the “kool aid” you won’t fit in. Ever wonder why they bring in so many former military veterans? Because they take advantage of former military veterans' aspiration to work towards a greater good. But the reality is, it’s a private corporation; you aren’t serving your country anymore. They talk endlessly about being good stewards of “the (owners) family money”...seriously? (it’s still a family owned business) Do they not realize how unbelievably weird and awkward that sounds? Once you’re back to your plant from your trip to Joplin (the HQ), the talk of culture generally is over and you see that none (literally, none) of it is put into practice. Everyone is happy to present their "Five Dysfunctions of a Team" book on full display on their bookshelves in their offices. Collecting more dust since the last time they touched it was when company leadership last visited the plant. This book and others in the series are actually good books; but the executives tout them in a weird, biblical way. As if the author is some sort of godly, executive whisperer. It’s weird. Travel: They usually socialize that you’ll travel 15%. If you’re in the six sigma black belt program, it’s probably closer to 25-30%. Not terrible, but there ends up being a lot more travel than just your six sigma training. If you live in Joplin though, you won’t travel anywhere since that’s typically where the training is. Oh and travel usually begins on Sunday afternoons, and you get home at midnight on Fridays. Even consulting isn’t that bad. Work Life Balance: It’s manufacturing so it’s not great. In the six sigma black belt program you can generally keep it 9-5; however, if you are doing projects on the production line (which is somewhat often), you’re at the mercy of the line production schedule. I spent several late nights at the plant running experiments at 2am. The weird thing is, no one cares. It’s almost this weird right of passage perception. Thought that was done when you left the military? Nope, not here. Once you move beyond the black belt program, it’s definitely not 9-5. Most production managers show up for shift change at 6am, and don’t leave until 5-6. And it’s generally that same schedule for most everyone else in the plant. Most of the plant leadership spends some time on the weekends at the plant throughout the year. Not a lot, but maybe 1-2 Saturdays per quarter. Diversity: They can’t even spell diversity at TAMKO. For JMOs: They tell you that you’re in a leadership/management development program, which is true. Nearly all plant leadership has their Black Belt certification and came through the program at some point. However, what they don’t tell you is that you’re basically interviewing for a role at your plant as a black belt (2-3 years). And if plant leadership doesn’t like you, it sucks to be you. The retention across the company for black belts is probably around 15% or so - it really is pathetic. They’ll tell you it’s because the black belts couldn’t “cut it”. The reality is, those who stay delude themselves to live in a false reality that "everything is great" so they can get to sleep at night - rather than admit they are stuck in TAMKO world. Most black belts last about 18-24 months because at the 12 month mark or so they’ve realized they need to get out. If you want to promote, in reality, all roads lead to Joplin, MO (where the HQ is). So if you don’t want to live there, which most don’t, since they aren’t from there. Don’t waste your time. At best, it was a way to learn about the private industry and understand what it means to work at a company that isn't great. There are plenty of opportunities elsewhere where the culture is better, pay is better, work life balance is better, benefits are better, oh and plenty of PTO. Bottom line, there’s way better options out there for other transitioning JMOs. But if you want to work in a delusional/cult like atmosphere, TAMKO is for you. Oh one last thing - to the reviews that say the company is run by lawyers - yea that's definitely true.

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